I want commas in the numeric part of 'ls' output and think this should be possible from setting LC_NUMERIC? Does anyone know how to do this? -- 1024/D9C69DF9 steve mynott steve at tightrope.demon.co.uk http://www.pineal.com/ mary had a little key (it's all she could export), and all the email that she sent was opened at the fort. -- ron rivest