[SPARCbook] RE: Sparcbook digest, Vol 1 #592 - 18 msgs
Vadim Ulaynitskiy
vadim.ulyanitskiy at fiducial.com
Mon Apr 15 09:59:53 CDT 2002
I do, but I use UltraBook now.
Vadim.
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Today's Topics:
1. Linux on Sparcbook (Rodolfo Segleau)
2. Anybody still use this list? (Bill Bradford)
3. Re: Anybody still use this list? (Jonathan Kalbfeld)
4. Re: Anybody still use this list? (Bill Bradford)
5. Re: Anybody still use this list? (Mike Nicewonger)
6. Re: Anybody still use this list? (Devin L. Ganger)
7. RE: Anybody still use this list? (Mike Adams)
8. Re: Anybody still use this list? (Hugo van der Kooij)
9. Re: Anybody still use this list? (Hugo van der Kooij)
10. Re: Anybody still use this list? (Phil Kerr)
11. Re: Anybody still use this list? (Michael Lorenz)
12. Re: Anybody still use this list? (David Cantrell)
13. Re: Anybody still use this list? (Ian Spray)
14. Re: Anybody still use this list? (David Lloyd)
15. Re: Anybody still use this list? (David Cantrell)
16. Re: Anybody still use this list? (d neal wise)
17. Re: Anybody still use this list? (Kurt Huhn)
18. Re: Anybody still use this list? (Kurt Huhn)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 14:34:48 -0000
To: "Sparcbook Mailing List" <sparcbook at sunhelp.org>
From: "Rodolfo Segleau" <segleaur at mechnaus.org>
Subject: [SPARCbook] Linux on Sparcbook
Reply-To: sparcbook at sunhelp.org
Has anyone seen lately any new developments in the Linux/Sparcbook? I've
haven't seen any new annoucements, but I've been jumping domains, so I quite
possible have lost a bit of touch with everything. Unfornatunately the lil
Sparcbook XP I have runs Solaris 2.6 pretty slow nad i have a limited amount
of cash to even think about upgrading anything of that thing. I'm still
missing the cable for the AUI transceiver, but the PCMCIA that I am using is
ok.
Cheers,
Rodolfo
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 20:45:37 -0500
From: Bill Bradford <mrbill at mrbill.net>
To: sparcbook at sunhelp.org
Subject: [SPARCbook] Anybody still use this list?
Reply-To: sparcbook at sunhelp.org
Anybody still use this list? Activity has died down to the point where I'm
considering shutting it down...
Bill
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 19:03:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jonathan Kalbfeld <jonathan at quaternion.thoughtwave.net>
To: <sparcbook at sunhelp.org>
Subject: Re: [SPARCbook] Anybody still use this list?
Reply-To: sparcbook at sunhelp.org
I was just about to post a question but forgot the question, so please
don't shut it down!
Maybe we should make a news group?
jonathan
On Sun, 14 Apr 2002, Bill Bradford wrote:
> Anybody still use this list? Activity has died down to the point where
I'm
> considering shutting it down...
>
> Bill
>
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 21:05:16 -0500
From: Bill Bradford <mrbill at mrbill.net>
To: sparcbook at sunhelp.org
Subject: Re: [SPARCbook] Anybody still use this list?
Reply-To: sparcbook at sunhelp.org
On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 07:03:04PM -0700, Jonathan Kalbfeld wrote:
> I was just about to post a question but forgot the question, so please
> don't shut it down!
I actually got two bounces from that last message I sent. Heh.
> Maybe we should make a news group?
Nah, not enough volume for that either.. I'll leave the list up for now;
we hadnt had any posts since march 11th..
Bill (trying to clean all the cruft off my servers..)
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Message: 5
From: Mike Nicewonger <twmaster at twmaster.com>
To: sparcbook at sunhelp.org
Subject: Re: [SPARCbook] Anybody still use this list?
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 22:21:41 -0400
Reply-To: sparcbook at sunhelp.org
On Sunday 14 April 2002 09:45 pm, you wrote:
> Anybody still use this list? Activity has died down to the point where
I'm
> considering shutting it down...
>
I do.
Hugo, what's up?
Mike N
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 19:35:41 -0700
From: "Devin L. Ganger" <devin at thecabal.org>
To: sparcbook at sunhelp.org
Subject: Re: [SPARCbook] Anybody still use this list?
Reply-To: sparcbook at sunhelp.org
On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 08:45:37PM -0500, Bill Bradford wrote:
> Anybody still use this list? Activity has died down to the point where
I'm
> considering shutting it down...
If for some reasons you don't want to run it anymore, Bill, let me know and
I'll be happy to take it over.
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Message: 7
From: "Mike Adams" <mike at unix-security.net>
To: <sparcbook at sunhelp.org>
Subject: RE: [SPARCbook] Anybody still use this list?
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 20:43:03 -0700
Reply-To: sparcbook at sunhelp.org
Bill,
I still follow, as well. I can host this list as well, if you've
gotten sick of us. :)
Mike Adams
Senior Unix Systems Engineer
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On Behalf Of Devin L. Ganger
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 7:36 PM
To: sparcbook at sunhelp.org
Subject: Re: [SPARCbook] Anybody still use this list?
On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 08:45:37PM -0500, Bill Bradford wrote:
> Anybody still use this list? Activity has died down to the point
where I'm
> considering shutting it down...
If for some reasons you don't want to run it anymore, Bill, let me know
and
I'll be happy to take it over.
--
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 07:22:16 +0200 (CEST)
From: Hugo van der Kooij <hvdkooij at vanderkooij.org>
To: sparcbook at sunhelp.org
Subject: Re: [SPARCbook] Anybody still use this list?
Reply-To: sparcbook at sunhelp.org
On Sun, 14 Apr 2002, Bill Bradford wrote:
> Anybody still use this list? Activity has died down to the point where
I'm
> considering shutting it down...
I have put my unit to rest due to some hardware failure almost a year ago.
Haven't done much since. I'll keep it around but don't expect to update it
anymore.
Hugo.
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 07:27:24 +0200 (CEST)
From: Hugo van der Kooij <hvdkooij at vanderkooij.org>
To: sparcbook at sunhelp.org
Subject: Re: [SPARCbook] Anybody still use this list?
Reply-To: sparcbook at sunhelp.org
On Mon, 15 Apr 2002, Hugo van der Kooij wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Apr 2002, Bill Bradford wrote:
>
> > Anybody still use this list? Activity has died down to the point where
I'm
> > considering shutting it down...
>
> I have put my unit to rest due to some hardware failure almost a year ago.
> Haven't done much since. I'll keep it around but don't expect to update it
> anymore.
This applies to the FAQ in case you didn't notice. (It must be the
hangover ;-)
Hugo.
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Message: 10
From: Phil Kerr <phil at plus24.com>
To: sparcbook at sunhelp.org
Subject: Re: [SPARCbook] Anybody still use this list?
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 10:36:17 +0100
Reply-To: sparcbook at sunhelp.org
Hi List,
I've almost given up on the SPARCbook list, which is a pity.
I posted a question about 2/3 months ago regarding Debian install on a
3000XT, no answer. I've not used the SB since. Are many people still using
these machines actively?
Phil
On Monday 15 April 2002 03:35, you wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 08:45:37PM -0500, Bill Bradford wrote:
> > Anybody still use this list? Activity has died down to the point where
> > I'm considering shutting it down...
>
> If for some reasons you don't want to run it anymore, Bill, let me know
and
> I'll be happy to take it over.
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Message: 11
From: Michael Lorenz <ml at rz.uni-potsdam.de>
To: sparcbook at sunhelp.org
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 12:01:08 +0200
Subject: Re: [SPARCbook] Anybody still use this list?
Reply-To: sparcbook at sunhelp.org
Hi there,
>I posted a question about 2/3 months ago regarding Debian install on a
>3000XT, no answer. I've not used the SB since. Are many people still
using
>these machines actively?
Well, since no free OS seems to support the onboard ISDN in my 3GX it still
runs Solaris 2.6 quite happily.
OTOH - there was some NeXTStep for SPARC based machines - has anyone here
tried this on a SPARCbook ?
have fun anyway
Michael
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 12:02:43 +0100
From: David Cantrell <david at cantrell.org.uk>
To: sparcbook at sunhelp.org
Subject: Re: [SPARCbook] Anybody still use this list?
Reply-To: sparcbook at sunhelp.org
On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 10:36:17AM +0100, Phil Kerr wrote:
> I posted a question about 2/3 months ago regarding Debian install on a
> 3000XT, no answer. I've not used the SB since. Are many people still
using
> these machines actively?
How similar is the 3000XT to a 3GX? I'm running Debian on a 3GX so might
be able to help. Although installing Debian on it was no different from
installing on any other Sun-a-like.
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 12:09:13 +0100
From: Ian Spray <iws at tadpole.co.uk>
To: sparcbook at sunhelp.org
Subject: Re: [SPARCbook] Anybody still use this list?
Organization: Tadpole-Cycle
Reply-To: sparcbook at sunhelp.org
On Mon, 15 Apr 2002 12:02:43 +0100
David Cantrell <david at cantrell.org.uk> wrote:
> How similar is the 3000XT to a 3GX? I'm running Debian on a 3GX so might
> be able to help. Although installing Debian on it was no different from
> installing on any other Sun-a-like.
>
The problem could be that the S3000 uses a native IDE drive internally
rather than SCSI (or IDE with a SCSI convertor). I've no idea what the
kernel modules are in the Debian SPARC install kernel, but if IDE's not
there, then the installer will have trouble.
If you want to make the S3000 as similar as possible to a 3GX, then you
might like to try installing to an external SCSI hard drive, and then
taking it from there. Note that I haven't tried it on either a 3GX or an
S3000, so can only guess at the problem(s).
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 20:58:17 +0930
From: David Lloyd <lloy0076 at rebel.net.au>
To: sparcbook at sunhelp.org
Subject: Re: [SPARCbook] Anybody still use this list?
Reply-To: sparcbook at sunhelp.org
Hmmmm...
I don't have a SPARC book but I've found what snippets of information go
pass interesting and useful. Listening/lurking on technical mailing
lists can give you a feel for the domain you're interested in. One may
not remember the details exactly but if one remembers "Oh, I seem to
have seen that in the SPARCbook mailing list" it's better than having no
clues at all!
*just my 2c worth*
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 12:14:49 +0100
From: David Cantrell <david at cantrell.org.uk>
To: sparcbook at sunhelp.org
Subject: Re: [SPARCbook] Anybody still use this list?
Reply-To: sparcbook at sunhelp.org
On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 12:09:13PM +0100, Ian Spray wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Apr 2002 12:02:43 +0100
> David Cantrell <david at cantrell.org.uk> wrote:
> > How similar is the 3000XT to a 3GX? I'm running Debian on a 3GX so
might
> > be able to help. Although installing Debian on it was no different from
> > installing on any other Sun-a-like.
> The problem could be that the S3000 uses a native IDE drive internally
> rather than SCSI (or IDE with a SCSI convertor). I've no idea what the
> kernel modules are in the Debian SPARC install kernel, but if IDE's not
> there, then the installer will have trouble.
Given that Debian installs without any effort at all on an Ultra 5 - which
is IDE-based - I'd be surprised if that caused problems on a 3000XT.
We really need more details of what has been tried (and how it failed) if
we're to take this any further.
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 21:43:23 +1000 (EST)
From: d neal wise <nwise at spy.net>
To: sparcbook at sunhelp.org
Subject: Re: [SPARCbook] Anybody still use this list?
Reply-To: sparcbook at sunhelp.org
On Mon, 15 Apr 2002, Phil Kerr wrote:
> I posted a question about 2/3 months ago regarding Debian install on a
> 3000XT, no answer. I've not used the SB since. Are many people still
using
> these machines actively?
my 3gs is sitting in the corner of my desk. i figured out quickly that a
portable 5/85 is just that. Is the 3000 XT a 170?
neal
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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 08:20:41 -0400
From: Kurt Huhn <kurt at k-huhn.com>
Organization: k-huhn.com
To: sparcbook at sunhelp.org
Subject: Re: [SPARCbook] Anybody still use this list?
Reply-To: sparcbook at sunhelp.org
Hugo van der Kooij wrote:
>
> On Sun, 14 Apr 2002, Bill Bradford wrote:
>
> > Anybody still use this list? Activity has died down to the point where
I'm
> > considering shutting it down...
>
> I have put my unit to rest due to some hardware failure almost a year ago.
> Haven't done much since. I'll keep it around but don't expect to update it
> anymore.
I've a 3GS that still runs like a champ. I'll help any way I can.
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kurt at k-huhn.com
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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 08:23:10 -0400
From: Kurt Huhn <kurt at k-huhn.com>
Organization: k-huhn.com
To: sparcbook at sunhelp.org
Subject: Re: [SPARCbook] Anybody still use this list?
Reply-To: sparcbook at sunhelp.org
Hugo van der Kooij wrote:
>
> On Mon, 15 Apr 2002, Hugo van der Kooij wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 14 Apr 2002, Bill Bradford wrote:
> >
> > > Anybody still use this list? Activity has died down to the point
where I'm
> > > considering shutting it down...
> >
> > I have put my unit to rest due to some hardware failure almost a year
ago.
> > Haven't done much since. I'll keep it around but don't expect to update
it
> > anymore.
>
> This applies to the FAQ in case you didn't notice. (It must be the
> hangover ;-)
>
> Hugo.
>
Double replys, d'oh...
Anyway, my previous post was regarding the FAQ as well. I'll be glad to
host/update/whatever.
--
Kurt
kurt at k-huhn.com
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