[rescue] Need help in booting Sun 2/50

[James Birdsall]

TME is the one I was thinking of. Note that I haven't tried this. I've been
thinking about it because I'll hit the same problem next year (how do I
install SunOS from tape images when I don't have a physical tape drive?) and
that's the most promising idea I have come up with. There may be pitfalls I
don't know about.


-----Original Message-----
From: "Michael Ng" <michaelng0623 at gmail.com>
Sent: b7/b2/b2013 8:40 AM
To: "The Rescue List" <rescue at sunhelp.org>
Subject: Re: [rescue] Need help in booting Sun 2/50

Hi James,

What is the option of emulated Sun 3? How about TME? Do you mean a software
installed under Windows or Mac environment? I think dealing with physical
tapes and drive will be a painful journey and if it can be simplified by
just the "modern computer" and the Sun 2/50 only, that would be great.

Michael


On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 5:57 AM, James Birdsall <jwb-tech at picarefy.com>wrote:

> Your 68030 tapes will not work on the 3/60, which is 68020-based. The 030
> tapes are meant for the sun3x machines, the 3/80 and 3/4xx. And the Sun-2's
> are yet another architecture, being 68010-based.
>
> The appropriate tape images for all of these are available online, but then
> the question is how to get the files onto a tape in the first place. You
> may
> be better off going a different route: installing SunOS on an emulated
> Sun-3
> (because I believe you can use the raw files of a tape image directly with
> the
> emulator rather than having to create a physical tape). Then you can
> netboot a
> physical machine from the emulated machine, and from there you can make
> physical tapes, if you still want to.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Michael Ng" <michaelng0623 at gmail.com>
> Sent: b 6/b 28/b 2013 9:13 AM
> To: "The Rescue List" <rescue at sunhelp.org>
> Subject: Re: [rescue] Need help in booting Sun 2/50
>
> Hi Steven,
>
> Thanks for your feedback, I just took out the boards for photos and there
> is a SCSI board attached which is not from Sun anyway, I think I will do
> two ways, one is to resolder the connector and another is like you said
> install 4.0.3 in the Sun 3/60 box, BUT, can you give idea on how to install
> it? it seems there is no Sun documentation on SunOS 3.X or 4.X online. I
> also don't have keyboard and mouse for the Sun 3 and it seems I can only
> try to make an adapter to connect the Sun 2 keyboard to CPU..
>
> I have 5 x SunOS 3.5 tape and 2x 4.0.3 domestic 68030 boot format 1/4"
> tapes.
>
> Michael
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 1:02 AM, Steven M Jones <smj+rescue at crash.com
> >wrote:
>
> > On 06/27/2013 09:12 AM, Michael Ng wrote:
> >
> >> I have the shoebox 511A but the CPU does not havet DD50 connector -  it
> >> seems it has been removed at somepoint. ... I have SunOS
> >>
> >> 3.5 tapes and 4.0.3 tapes and the shoebox seems to work as when I plug
> it
> >> to Sun 3/60 it makes noise.
> >>
> >> Any advice will be highly appreciated..
> >>
> >
> > Sounds like your only option will be to run this Sun-2/50 completely
> > diskless, unless you want to confirm that only the SCSI connector was
> > removed and break out a soldering iron...
> >
> > I don't have a handy online reference to setting up SunOS 3/4 diskless
> > workstations, but it was definitely covered in Sun's printed
> documentation.
> > You may have or can find a copy of the SunOS 4.x AnswerBook online that
> > will have such a section.
> >
> > Sounds to me like you could install SunOS 4.0.3 on the Sun-3/60 you
> > mentioned, set it up as the boot server for the Sun-2/50 following Sun's
> > docs, and use that or have a working model to translate to a *BSD or
> Linux
> > server if that's more convenient for you.
> >
> > Good luck!
> > --Steve.
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