[rescue] DEC KA730, was Re: Electronics Recycling Day
John Francini
francini at mac.com
Tue Nov 17 18:56:56 CST 2009
> The official "Suicide Note" (as it's come to be called)
> predated Ultrix by a few years' time. Interestingly, Ultrix
> soldiered on almost to the very end as "Tru-64" well and truly
> into the Alpha era.
While Tru64 and Ultrix had a lot of very similar features (BSD
userland, in particular), under the hood Tru64 was a very different
beast -- it used a Mach kernel, the AdvFS filesystem, and VMS-like
clustering capabilities (which required AdvFS in order to work. Tru64
was a direct descendant of OSF/1 with the BSD userland stapled on.
>
> I am given to understand that this causes some consternation
> in historical circles because Ultrix has had such a long life-
> span and the "elder" systems such a comparitively "short" one
> (such as the PDP-10 Monitor) that it clouds the achievements that
> the company actually delivered on. Too, the hardware required to
> properly run, say, TOPS-10 7.01, is rather scarce whilst almost
> anybody (within reason here, of course) can get iron that'll run
> Ultrix 4.x or Tru-64 on Alpha.
Not only is the hardware to run TOPS-10 (or TOPS-20, or ITS, for that
matter) rather scarce, it'd be cost-prohibitive to power it up. IIRC,
a KL-10B with MH10 external memory (256KW per 30" wide cabinet,
minimum 4 required for full 4-way memory interleaving), an RP06 drive
or two (176 MB each), a TU72 tape drive plus TX10 controller, and an
LP07 line printer requires easily 200+A of three-phase 208V power.
The CPU itself uses a 100A 3-phase 208V connector.
What about emulation? Using KLH-10, you can emulate a full-scale KL10
Model B on modern (and cheap) PC hardware, running much faster than
the original iron. This is a MUCH better solution, and probably the
only way most people can relive the software experience.
john (who has worked for DEC and its follow-ons, on TOPS-10, VMS,
Ultrix, and Tru64.)
>
>> They they would have only one operating system instead of two
>> to support, and no royalties to pay AT&T.
>
> Ultrix was -- is -- a BSD derivative. I don't believe that DEC
> would havd had to pay royalties to AT&T.
>
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