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[Sridhar Ayengar]

Charles Shannon Hendrix wrote:
>>> True, but that is due to the fact that with Sun Systems you get 
>>> diagnostics that actually say something useful ... it's just that sun 
>>> systems are build to a different requirement they are mostly build to 
>>> run the same applications for years on end without being shutdown at all.
>> Hearty agreement on the diags. I have had Suns tell me that the memory 
>> in a specific slot is bad. Never seen that on any PeeCee.
> 
> I've also had to replace tons of RAM in Suns that their diagnostics never flagged.
> 
> There is no way to test RAM reliably like Sun does it in their bootup code.
> 
> They use a roll forward test that virtually guarantees it will cover up at
> least half of the common RAM errors.
> 
> Things like memtest86 are the only way to really see most RAM errors.
> 
> Otherwise, yes, the Sun diagnostics are nice, but I have to say that I'm even
> disappointed in most UNIX machine ROMs too.
> 
> None of the ROMs in modern systems really does the kinds of things I would
> like to see, and some of the UNIX stuff is 1970s cryptic, and honestly... why?

What sort of diags do you mean, specifically?  Which would you have 
expected to see ubiquitously by now?

I agree that a lot of it is cryptic, but I get a kick out of it.  I'm 
just that strange.

Peace...  Sridhar