On 2003.06.09 22:50 Phil Stracchino wrote: > Have you ever considered hanging a bellydancer's zil[1] from it? > Then you'd have a phallic cymbal ..... Well, when I had the scrotal rings there was some acoustic interaction e.g. when showering... -- tsch|_, Jochen Homepage: http://www.unixag-kl.fh-kl.de/~jkunz/