An IP address to call my own...was Re: An ISP of their own (was RE: [rescue] Being jobless)

Earl D. Baugh Jr. earl at baugh.org
Tue Jul 29 12:07:00 CDT 2003


Phil wrote:

>On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 02:08:19PM -0400, Earl D. Baugh Jr. wrote:
> > It helps, that if you have, your own class C IP address (like I
> > do).   You'll have to do a lot of 'splaing to folks, but you also can 
> rather quickly weed out the
> > ISP's that don't know very much....my favorite line was "You don't have 
> a class C
> > address" to which I replied, "Why don't you go to Arin and 
> check..."...a few sec, and
> > a very quiet "oh, I'm sorry".  Needless to say, they didn't get my 
> business.
>
>
>So ...  how (and when) *did* you get your own allocated Class C?

Originally I put in the request for it for a company I was working 
for....we got 4 at the
time...one for each of 3 offices, and one which we thought we might need 
for internal
networking or PPP connections....but it ended up that we didn't need 
it.  It was probably,
oh, like 12 years ago.  I originally started using it for my home 
connection...had a direct line
from my house to the local Cisco router...simple PPP, but really 
tuned...was way before
DSL and other stuff was available...it would have had to be a Frame or T1 
connection for
anything faster.

After about 6 months, I thought, well this is silly, why is this registered 
to my work,
when it's really just for me.   So, since I was the contact, I simply 
switched the info.
It was easier than putting in a separate new request for another for 
myself.   The transfer
was legitimate ...according to the rules at the time, a company could 
change the registration
for an IP however they want....it may still be the case, but nobody is 
going to do it for you unless
you have a minimum of 4 consecutive addresses...and you have a very strong 
case for it.
Work didn't have any trouble with it.....  Really wasn't that big of a 
deal, though, perhaps 6 months
after that, things started changing, and things started to get tight and 
the rules were all
changed for how they hand out IP's, and now they only go to ISP's now.

Dave asked (and Sridhar asked)
>    ...and what I want to know is, how did he keep a friend from TAKING
>IT.  *grumble*
>
>        -Dave, formerly 204.91.10/24, *sob*
>
>Not much of a friend, that person.
>
>Peace...  Sridhar

Dave may be asking why didn't I have to turn it back in.  I have been 
"asked" a couple
of times if I didn't need it, if I could return it back.  But I said 
"no".  And that was that.
I had a "reasonable" number of machines on the address (never less than 5 
or so) so I
always have looked like a "small company".

They also put out the request to return addresses to the company that I got 
the other addresses
for....and they were pretty adamant about not returning them.  They had 
gotten burned twice by
ISP's by having to re-number all their boxes when they switched (kinda like 
non-number
portability for cell phones) since they did these moves way before NAT 
devices were available.
They actually have another address that they were able to get from PSI 
(they "paid" PSI for it,
and so, when they left PSI, they were able to get it transferred to them as 
a "deliverable"....after
some hassling...and a copy of the original doc that I happened to save 
which said the company
paying for it owned it. (that language had gotten changed in the version 
that PSI later presented
to us...)

Earl



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