And speaking of my DEC PWS433au (which I was in my last post), mine came missing the QLogic SCSI card. I tried an Adaptec 2940UW, and a 2940U2W in it. It didn't notice. Should they show up with sh dev? (SRM Console 7.0-10) Bill Martin Bill Martin bill at bdoserr.com 2725 River Road 757.481.9318 Virginia Beach, VA 23454-1210