[rescue] Sun memo regarding Java

Koyote koyote at koyote.cx
Mon Feb 10 21:38:33 CST 2003


"Jonathan C. Patschke" <jp at celestrion.net> writes:

> On Mon, 10 Feb 2003, Dave McGuire wrote:
> 
> >    I've been remotely managing UNIX systems for years, and so have you.
> > I've never run SMC.  Kerberized telnet & rsh (or even SSH if your
> > network is small enough) and a good text editor are your friends.  And
> > for really big networks, rdist is your friend too.
> 
> Yes, -you- know that, and -I- know that.  But Sun's pushing for new
> admins to use SMC instead of the command-line tools.  I've tried using
> SMC all of -once- just so that I didn't have to learn a silly command
> change when I was in a time crunch.
> 
> My point isn't that we're all being forced to use SMC, but that
> newcomers are being told "that's the way to do it" in the same vein as
> "smit is how you do xyz on AIX".  However, unlike smit, SMC blows dog.
> This, combined with the horrid Solaris installer and the slow
> application installers makes it look like Sun, the father of Java (both
> the language and the movement) can't write good Java code to save their
> lives.

Yknow, while I do most of my work via command line, I'm getting more and
more used to the webmin application. it's not exactly *fast*, but
compared to smit or the "hp openview family of products" it's a
screamer.

I also runs on most platforms pretty easily.


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