[rescue] Flying Pigs - OT WIN2K speed

[Phil Schilling]

"Greg A. Woods" wrote:
> 
> [ On Sunday, September 9, 2001 at 18:03:32 (-0500), Bill Bradford wrote: ]
> > Subject: Re: [rescue] Flying Pigs - OT WIN2K speed
> >
> > Yes, I know, i could run StarOffice to get "equivalent" Word and Excel
> > functionality, and Dia is "almost there" when it comes to "doing the same
> > type of thing as Visio"
> 
> I think you're still focusing far too much on specific tools and
> specific file formats.
> 
> > but I have yet to see a UNIX client that will
> > interact (in some way OTHER than just pop3) with an Exchange server.
> 
> IMAP?  :-)
> 
> I mean what's wrong with normal mailbox access?  What functions of your
> job require more than just normal e-mail?
> 
> > If I could get software packages that would read/write/edit Visio
> > diagrams without having to convert to an intermediary file format first,
> 
> I've never used visio so I don't know what its strengths and weaknesses
> are, but I've used lots of unix-based diagramming tools and I've never
> had any problem getting the results I need.  I maybe take longer because
> I'm not an expert at many of these tools, but then I take longer at lots
> of different kinds of jobs that I'm not an expert at because I use them
> all as learning experiences.  I always push the envelope of what I'm
> trying to do so that I can learn something new.
> 
> As for intermediary file formats, well if you can't convert it then it's
> got to be useless from a corporate perspective anyway.  Getting locked
> into a proprietary file format is like letting your vendor make his
> check out himself!
> 
> > and get a good UNIX equivalent of an Outlook 2000 client, I'd ditch the
> > Windows box on my desk at work in a heartbeat.
> 
> Even if there is something in M$-Exchucks that a normal mail user agent
> can't do I'd be loathe to get tied into it, even if all my co-workers
> were using it.  Similar reasoning follows from the file format lock-in.
> If your vendor's got you tied by the short curly ones to a specific
> server platform then your as good as in bed with them.
> 
> >  I also have a need for a
> > UNIX client for a Nortel VPN gateway.
> 
> Reagan's already suggested any IPsec client, but you've said that won't
> work yet.  I'd suggest that if it won't work then it's must not be a
> very good VPN, and indeed it must have come into being without taking
> unix into serious consideration.
> 
> (That said I must say there's simply got to be a unix-based client
> available from Nortel -- they're still one of the most unix-centric
> companies of that size anywhere in the world!)
> 
> >  If it makes you happy, I'm already
> > using VNC as my "remote access to work Windows machine" solution. 8-)
> 
> I think that misses the point....   :-)
> 
> > However, until all of that happens, I'll have multiple machines on my desk.
> 
> I have multiple machines on my desk -- they just happen to all be either
> runing X11, or be normal ttys, system consoles, whatever.  (I'd love to
> get one my DMDs running again, and may try to find desk space for it
> once I get my primary workstation upgraded (os-wise) again.)
> 
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if you are looking for an exchange client for *nix try www.bynari.net
they have a very decent client with all the bells and whistles.


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Phil Schilling
GCS Tech
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