[SunRescue] re: [OT] Reliable net access in the boonies

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I've always herd them called either Dry Copper (for genuine copper), but
it has No Amps, remember that, it's important, or Dark Fibre (for
fibre).  Either way it's fairly cheap, if it's in place...
	Nick

On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Greg A. Woods wrote:

> [ On Thursday, March 29, 2001 at 19:37:31 (-0800), James Lockwood wrote: ]
> > Subject: Re: [SunRescue] re: [OT] Reliable net access in the boonies
> >
> > On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Jonathan Katz wrote:
> > 
> > > the big expense of co-location there. Most places you can run a "empty"
> > > two-wire copper feed to your local CO for $20-$60/mo-- drop in your own
> > > DSL equipment at the CO and at home, (dsl router at home, dsl to oc-3
> > 
> > Ok, what are the hard numbers on what it costs to become a (mini) CLEC?
> > I've always thought it would be horrendously involved, but if you have
> > evidence to the contrary it's definitely worth looking into.
> 
> You don't become a CLEC just by dropping in your own PairGains or other
> similar DSL drivers on leased copper pairs!  :-)
> 
> I know of at least one mfgr who make sDSL line drivers for about $500
> each and they'll push at leat 56kbps through at least 26,000 feet of
> copper so long as it's all 24 gauge or thicker.  I've got a friend who's
> up in an almost rural area near a small town north of here and he's got
> his house connected to his ISP at 512kbps synchronous with them.
> 
> You need to get an engineering study and quote on the copper pair(s)
> from your telco before you go very far with planning though.  Some
> telcos call them alarm circuits, or LDDS, etc.  Once you know the price
> and hopefully the length then you'll know if it's worth the effort.
> 
> (If the lease price on the pairs is low enough I'd strongly advise
> getting two pairs -- that opens up your options on drivers and gives you
> lots more redundancy if you do end up with ones that only need one pair.)
> 
> I should really talk to my neighbours -- I've got a pair of 56kbps DSUs
> sitting idle, as well as a pair of T1 DSUs and a half a shelf of T1 line
> terminators, and I think I'm well within 10k feet of the CO.
> 
> -- 
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