[rescue] "New" SPARCserver 20

[Zach Malone]

Yes, when they work, they work very well, however... Sound Blaster Live
cards have problems with them, the onboard RAID(KT7-A) controller has had a
number of problems, I have had large problems getting them working with
windows (Windows "looses" the drivers for the IDE controller).  This may be
in part due to my filling all the PCI slots, but it is unacceptable one the
less.  I have had no problems under OpenBSD, but then, I am not using about
half the devices in my PCI slots under OpenBSD.  These boards definatly have
problems, it has been shown with direct swaps at a couple of review sites (I
think that systemlogic.net or something had one) where they swapped boards
out, choose all the same settings, and had one board be completely unusable,
and the other worked great.
    Zach
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Sikorski" <motomo at purdue.edu>
To: <rescue at sunhelp.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 3:09 PM
Subject: RE: [rescue] "New" SPARCserver 20


> It's my finding that Abit boards are stable when you get things setup
> right.  A KT7 is unstable as hell when you don't get the right memory
> and agp settings, but if you have it setup right, it'll be rock-solid.
> Basically I consider abit's to be boards for tweakers.  If you don't
> want to mess with BIOS settings to get things running perfectly, then
> don't buy an abit, but if you are willing to do some tweaking to get the
> best performance out of the board, abit's a the way to go.
>
> -Dan Sikorski
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rescue-admin at sunhelp.org [mailto:rescue-admin at sunhelp.org] On
> Behalf
> > Of Zach Malone
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 1996 12:07 AM
> > To: rescue at sunhelp.org
> > Subject: Re: [rescue] "New" SPARCserver 20
> >
> > Asus and Abit have horrid reputations as of late.  Abit's BX boards
> had
> > the
> > most overclocking options of any board out there, and while their AMD
> > boards
> > are nice, they are unstable as anything.  From what I have heard,
> among
> > home
> > users a 10% RMA rate is not all that uncommon for companies.  Asus,
> > meanwhile, has a slightly better reputation, though it is hardly good.
> > AOpen does have a rep. for making really stable consumer boards, as
> they
> > dont really make high end boards, you cannot judge those.  About the
> > Thunder
> > 2500, its not quite a commodity board, they only sell to large OEMs,
> > making
> > it difficult for you and I to come by.  I throw in Supermicro, Tyan,
> and
> > Intel, as they are really the only high end board manufacturers out
> there,
> > last I heard, they were the only companies even capable of making 8
> layer
> > boards, such as AMDs 760MP reference design.  About Tyan, sure, you
> may
> > have
> > had a bad experience with their consumer boards, but there is a reason
> AMD
> > decided that only Tyan would be sold 760MP chipsets for a couple
> months,
> > its
> > because Tyans workstation/server boards have a really solid
> reputation,
> > and
> > AMD did not want to have companies like ABit and PCChips making boards
> > with
> > horrid stability, giving the 760MP a bad rep.
> >     Zach
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <nick at snowman.net>
> > To: <rescue at sunhelp.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 1:20 PM
> > Subject: Re: [rescue] "New" SPARCserver 20
> >
> >
> > > Supermicro isn't too bad, AOpen I'd argue with, asus is pretty good,
> > > abit... well, they need to get hit with a cluestick.  A large
> > > cluestick.  They have some neat ideas, and seem to actually be
> hackers
> > > rather than corp. grunts, but I could give them some lessons in "MB
> > > Building 101".  Intels are ok, but Boring! <grin>
> > > Nick
> > >
> > > On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, G W Adkins wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > Tyan does make great boards.  Supermicro, Intel, AOpen, and Tyan
> are
> > about
> > > > > the only PC board companies with even a shred of reputation for
> > making
> > > > > stable boards
> > > >
> > > > Hmmm, before you toss in Supermicro and Acer, perhaps you had
> better
> > check
> > > > out Asus and Abit...
> > > > Both will smoke the hell out of a Spermicro or Acer...
> > > >
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