A roomful of Suns, a iced down 12 pack, and running kermit off a floppy on: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1257127256&r=0&t=0&showTutorial=0&ed=996197889&indexURL=0&rd=1 It doesn't get any better than this. Gil