I have to crow a bit. >From Ingram Micro auction New in box Ultra 5 333 for $589.00. Link to auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1262273133 I am a very happy boy Phil "Never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience" (Dilberts Rules of Order)