[SunRescue] we're all just spoiled (was: re: IPC)

John F. Davis davis at skink.net
Wed Oct 25 18:47:01 CDT 2000


On Wed, Oct 25, 2000 at 10:24:15AM -0500, Mike Hebel wrote:
> >>CE is no better than 9x, and in many ways it's much worse.
> 
> I'll second that.  I've used "wince" on my PDA and I really hate it.
> 
> >>When comparing PDAs, don't forget that a typical CE machine has
> >>a 200 MHz R4400 or equivalent. None of the ARM-based ones have
> >>anything less than a StrongARM. All of the old SH3 machines
> >>have long since been dropped because CE is just too slow on
> >>a 60+ MHz 680x0 clone!
> 
> My Uniden PC-100 is a 75mhz MIPS and is "ok" for CE 2.0 but still bogs down
> and locks up occasionally.  I wish there was an easy way for me to re-burn
> the OS rom.  It's a MIPS chip so I bet I could port Linux MIPS to it.  That
> would be really cool!

A guy in my linux lug brought in a mips powered laptop/pda thingy which 
he had running linux.  He didn't have to write any code, just install
the mips linux code.  it looked pretty cool.  

> 
> >>Palms, Psions, and the like are all using much slower CPUs with
> >>a much more efficient OS.
> 
> Handspring seems to have made the best go of it so far IMHO.  They have a
> fairly zippy box that runs anything Palm due to their licensing.  On top of
> that they have the Handspring modules.  (*drool* want visor-phone *drool*)
> They even seem to have a good battery life.
> 
> >>The other side of CE is that its reliability is even worse than 9x.
> >>Microsoft's own example code contains workarounds for kernel race
> >>conditions by using sleep() calls. The documentation doesn't see
> >>anything wrong with this, but does note that it may be necessary
> >>to increase the time of the sleep() on newer, faster machines!
> 
> Not to mention lockups, program incompatibilities between CPU types, bloated
> memory requirements, etc...  I think that CE will hang around for another
> few years if that and then be dumped by Microsoft.  Probably during the
> breakup.
> 
> Just my $.02. ;-)
> 
> Mike Hebel
> 
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