[SunRescue] Creator 2D/PCI card in Ultra 5?

[Chris Drelich]

Ill ask my boss as soon as I see him.  I dunno about SCSI, but there is
DEFINETLY a AGP RAID card.
Chris

nick at ns.snowman.net wrote:
> 
> Close, but not quite.  AGP 4x is 133mhz, and it's double pumped (I think
> it's 4x, may be 8x) but still only 64bit.  And it's not the card that
> inherantly sucks down the resources, it's the app.  A true gfx accel. in
> agp or pci form will only take more resources in agp form IF it needs
> them.  Doing the same ammount of work will transfer ~ the same ammount of
> data over either buss, but the agp one will finish first.  If you're in an
> app where you Can't finish first then agp will do more work, which will
> translate (usually) to better gfx, and more system hogging.  If you have a
> link to an agp scsi card i'd love to see it.  The prob is you'd need a
> mostly new driver for it in winblows (it'd work with a minor tweak, if any
> in linux).
>         Nick
> 
> On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Chris Drelich wrote:
> 
> > Hmm, well I was talking about the newer AGP.  Which is 133MHz and either 64 or
> > 128bit.  Im not the one smoking the stuff, whoever made that RAID card is. ;)
> > So, basicly there are AGP cards which give the same performance as PCI cards,
> > and AGP cards that suck resources to hell.
> > Chris
> >
> > nick at ns.snowman.net wrote:
> > >
> > > Errr......... err...........  What are you smoking and where can I get
> > > some?  There are devices that use 66mhz 64bit pci which is very close to
> > > what agp is.  However AGP is only for gfx cards, because it is a port.
> > > You cannot (with current chipsets) have more than one agp port, and that
> > > is not likley to change (since you can have up to ~5 master 64bit 66mhz
> > > pci slots).  There is no advantage to building a agp card instead of a
> > > 64/66 pci card, unless you need the special hacks for gfx.  Asus may have
> > > considered building a scsi card or something, but I doubt it.  As too
> > > AGP "chewing up system resources"  I'm fairly confident that you're
> > > getting "Trying to emulate a 20K SGI" confused with "chewing up system
> > > resources".  Unless you are running agp enhanced cards (which are UMA and
> > > Evil!) then it's just a pci card with a really really really fast bus and
> > > a quicker path to memory.  I'd explain some more but i've got to work
> > > <grin>
> > >         Nick
> > >
> > > On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Chris Drelich wrote:
> > >
> > > > I personally haven't seen them, but I know they exist, if I find a URL, Ill
> > > > point it out.  This whole conversation actually came up just a few days ago at
> > > > work.  We were looking to buy a few new servers to do some RAID stuff.  One of
> > > > the servers that was offered came with an AGP RAID card.  Well, needless to
> > > > say, we didn't get it(we went for the system with the Mylex RAID), but yes, it
> > > > does exist, and if I find out more info Ill let you know.
> > > > Chris
> > > >
> > > > David Murphy wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Quoting <38D77A0C.FCD3DE13 at interport.net>
> > > > > by Chris Drelich <hyena at interport.net>:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Errr. Well, maybe I didn't explain well. There ARE things that go
> > > > > > into an AGP slots besides Graphics cards. You don't want this. You
> > > > > > don't want your RAID or Network or SCSI card depending on AGP.
> > > > >
> > > > > Um, have you actually ever seen anything other than a graphics card
> > > > > that uses an AGP slot? I can't say that I have, but if you could
> > > > > perhaps point me at a URL describing such a product?
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > When asked if it is true that he uses his wheelchair as a weapon he will reply:
> > > > > "That's a malicious rumour. I'll run over anyone who repeats it."
> > > > > Stephen Hawking - [http://www.smh.com.au/news/0001/07/features/features1.html]
> > > > > David Murphy - For PGP public key, send mail with Subject: send-pgp-key
> > > > >
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