[SunRescue] How FAST is a SUN IPC

Eric Ozrelic erico at bendcable.com
Thu Jul 6 19:38:30 CDT 2000


While we're talking about the performace of different lower end Sun's, what
would be faster, a Sparc 2 with a 80MHz Weitek upgrade or an Sparc LX?

I have a Sparc 2 with an 80MHz Weitek and 128MB of ram, and a Sparc LX
with 128MB of ram as well. I know the LX is a 50MHz microsparc, right?
Shouldn't the LX be faster?

Regards,

Eric Ozrelic
aka ProjektSUN

p.s I always liked my little IPC, I had it co-located at an ISP for about a
year hosting
silencer.net when I used to own it. It was also my first Sun Sparc.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Fleet Captain Druaga" <Druaga at pmail.net>
To: <rescue at sunhelp.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 5:05 PM
Subject: RE: [SunRescue] How FAST is a SUN IPC


> Actually I can easily agree with this.  Linux is _not_ optimized for
Sparc.
> NetBSD runs incredibly faster than any Linux distro I could possibly load
on
> the lower end Sparc boxes.  YMMV but I've personally seen it on IPC, IPX,
> and Sparc 2.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Mike Hebel
>
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: rescue-admin at sunhelp.org [mailto:rescue-admin at sunhelp.org]On
> > >Behalf Of Dave McGuire
> > >Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 5:23 PM
> > >To: rescue at sunhelp.org
> > >Subject: RE: [SunRescue] How FAST is a SUN IPC
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  That explains it.  I know I'm treading on thin ice here...and let me
> > >state that, while I primarily am a BSD hack, I do have several Linux
> > >boxes and I love them all dearly...but many people have found that
> > >Linux performs a bit poorly on sun4c-architecture machines
> > >(sparcstation1, 1+, 2, IPC, IPX, SLC, ELC).  For much, much better
> > >than 486/anything performance from an IPX, I'd suggest moving to one
> > >of the BSDs...NetBSD or OpenBSD will run fine on the IPX.
> > >
> > >  I'm not trying to start a flame war, I'm not an anti-Linux person,
> > >blah blah blah...I've just run a *lot* of hardware in a lot of
> > >different places and I've seen big differences in performance.  Linux
> > >is famous for wringing amazing amounts of performance out of even the
> > >lowest-end Intel box...this is not so on smaller sparcstations.
> > >
> > >         -Dave McGuire
> > >
> > >On July 6, scohen - Stephen Cohen wrote:
> > >> Both machines (IPX and dx2 - by the way, Cyrix, not Intel) are
> > >running Red
> > >> Hat 6.2.  The SPARC IPX on 2.2.16-3, the dx2 on 2.2.14.
> > >>
> > >> The IPX is DOG SLOW running a windows manager.  It is much
> > >faster to run
> > >> Netscape, for example, by sending the output over to my NT
workstation.
> > >> Given network bandwidth, one would think that the network would be
the
> > >> bottleneck - but this is not the case.
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >> Steve
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Dave McGuire [mailto:mcguire at neurotica.com]
> > >> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 11:35 AM
> > >> To: rescue at sunhelp.org
> > >> Subject: RE: [SunRescue] How FAST is a SUN IPC
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>   Wow...what OS was this IPX running?  I've always had to get well up
> > >> into the mid-range Pentium family before a PeeCee would perceptibly
> > >> outperform an IPX...*especially* in graphics performance...I've
> > >> always run either SunOS4 or NetBSD/sparc on them.
> > >>
> > >>           -Dave McGuire
> > >>
> > >> On July 6, scohen - Stephen Cohen wrote:
> > >> > A SPARCstation IPX running with the PowerUp CPU (40 to
> > >80Mhz) upgrade is
> > >> not
> > >> > quite as fast as an Intel 486dx2 50Mhz running Linux 6.2.
> > >However, some
> > >> of
> > >> > the perceived speed difference may be that the IPX appears
> > >to have much
> > >> > slower graphics (X-based GUI) than the Intel box.
> > >> >
> > >> > All of the above is 'seat of the pants' estimates.
> > >> >
> > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > From: chris Gnther [mailto:madram at video.de]
> > >> > Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 10:16 AM
> > >> > To: MailingList SUN Help
> > >> > Subject: [SunRescue] How FAST is a SUN IPC
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Hi all,
> > >> >
> > >> > some of you propably do know me and my "little" problem with
> > >my SUN IPC.
> > >> > Now - after 6 weeks of consequentely trying to get it work
> > >and failling
> > >> > miserably - I come to a point where I'd like to know what
> > >exactly I could
> > >> > do with it would ever get it to work.
> > >> >
> > >> > So my question is:
> > >> >
> > >> >     How fast or strong is a SUN IPC?
> > >> >
> > >> > My configuration is as follows:
> > >> > - SUN IPC with WEITEK-Chip
> > >> > - all 12 RAM Banks filled (still don't know how much RAM this is)
> > >> > - 2GB IBM HDD
> > >> > - a second Framebuffer card
> > >> > - an ISDN-card
> > >> > - and two 16" SUN-Monitors
> > >> >
> > >> > Can anyone tell me what exactly I can do with it.
> > >> >
> > >> > To give you a point on what I normally do with my PC running SOL8:
> > >> > - writing with LaTeX2e
> > >> > - Database-Developing with mySQL (runs on my Server)
> > >> > - C and C++ programming
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >     thanks in advance,
> > >> >
> > >> >         chris
> > >> >
> > >> > +---------------------------------+
> > >> > |             chris               |
> > >> > | ------------------------------- |
> > >> > |  database design & programming  |
> > >> > |   agentur fiedler / video.de    |
> > >> > |                                 |
> > >> > |                 madram at video.de |
> > >> > +---------------------------------+
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