[geeks] Upgraded my Ham license today...

[Rjtoegel]

Hope they gave you time to look them over.  Must be a bunch of rules!  I could
see if you weren't given the rules before you signed that could be the basis
of a good court case.
You'd be surprised how invisible #24 wire is,  especially against the trees.
;)  A mobile antenna that can be removed works too.  Making a good ground can
be a problem.  Another idea is what I call an impedance matched antenna,
basically a length of wire and a toroidal matching transformer (winding on
torpid, one end to wire, other to coax shield, movable tap to coax center).
Use it on the car.  Looks like a 102 inch CB whip but can load on any band,
even 160.  Probably crap at the lower end but I make contacts on 75 and 40
with about 35 watts out.  My first try was on 20 and contacted a ham in Italy.
I guess it works and it's not ground critical.  You always find an old
Outbacker mobile antenna, they work good too.

Bob

On Jan 19, 2015, at 15:22, Lionel Peterson <lionel4287 at gmail.com> wrote:

> When I bought my new home the COA rules were handed to me on a CD... ;^)
>
> Lionel
>
>> On Jan 19, 2015, at 12:34 PM, Robert Toegel <rjtoegel at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> That's why I said that sometimes they're "hidden" or not obvious and if
you
>> don't see it, you get screwed.  Sort of let the buyer be aware situation.
>> Too often if you ask the real estate agent if there are any CC&Rs or HOAs,
>> they may not tell you because they want to make the sale or just laugh it
>> off.  Yep, you sign the paper (which you probably don't read completely)
>> and you agree to the HOA rules which are probably not listed anyway.  If
>> you're good about explaining it and all the advantages like emergency
>> communications durning disasters and such, you might get to put up a small
>> "invisible" antenna with their permission but all you need is one
>> "ill-informed" member and there goes that.  Like I said, I'm glad I live
in
>> a city where nobody cares.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 1:27 AM, Patrick Giagnocavo <patrick at zill.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> HMMM, seems HOAs get a pass, in that you "voluntarily" agreed to abide by
>>> them...
>>>
>>> http://www.arrl.org/restrictive-antenna-ordinances
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Rjtoegel" <rjtoegel at gmail.com>
>>> To: "The Geeks List" <geeks at sunhelp.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 10:40:05 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
>>> Subject: Re: [geeks] Upgraded my Ham license today...
>>>
>>> I think it means the rule allowing antennas does not apply.  See the
>>> section
>>> on "fixed wireless antennas".
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>>> On Jan 18, 2015, at 16:14, Lionel Peterson <lionel4287 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> From the FCC:
>>>> Q:  I want to install an antenna for broadcast radio or amateur radio.
>>> Does
>>>> the rule apply to me?
>>>>
>>>> A:  No.  The rule does not apply to antennas used for AM/FM radio,
>>> amateur
>>>> ("ham") radio (see 47 C.F.R.  B'97.15), Citizen's Band ("CB") radio or
>>> Digital
>>>> Audio Radio Services ("DARS").
>>>>
>>>> From here: http://www.fcc.gov/guides/over-air-reception-devices-rule
>>>>
>>>> I think that is the relevant law...
>>>>
>>>> Lionel
>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 18, 2015, at 4:05 PM, Patrick Giagnocavo <patrick at zill.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> IANAL so I don't know.
>>>>>
>>>>> But I think a phone call from the FCC which regulates hams, might make
>>> the
>>>> HOA lawyer think twice.
>>>>>
>>>>> They tried to ban satellite dishes, but Congress put a stop to that.
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