[geeks] [rescue] Guns - what are they good for? - was Re: TME and Apple II and other Drive emulator questions.

[hike]

"What has your neighbour been up to? Personally I prefer a more intimate
form of violence ... I wonder how that auction for the battleaxe is
going?"

The first thing that I was taught was bDonbt let the attacker get close
to
youb.

A gun can prevent that, sometimes.  Gun can breach outb a relatively long
distance while a knife requires a much closer distanceban armbs length.
By
sometimes, a LEO Gun & Tactic Trainer told me that most modern gunfights
are at a distance of 12-15 feet.  Thatbs awfully close AND a purpose-driven
attacker can reach you at that distance in 1 second or less.

While I worked with a group from South Philly, they told me, bYou always
fight a person with a knife; you never fight a person with a gunb.
Thatbs
one reason why a gun is better.

Now, if you want to harm someone, thatbs a different story.  The closer you
are tells the LEOs the more personally involved with the victim you are.
 Thatbs why the ice pick, the Craftsman flat blade screwdriver and now Ikea
furniture (??) are dead giveaways for domestic violence.


On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 5:01 PM, Mike Meredith <very at zonky.org> wrote:

> On Wed, 21 May 2014 09:50:08 -0400, Phil Stracchino wrote:
> > As I already pointed out, from the violent crime perspective that's
> > the wrong question.  The key statistic there is not *guns* per 100,000
> > population, it's gun *owners* per 100,000 population.  Very, very few
>
> I suspect the more useful statistic is how many people have trivial
> and/or easy access to a firearm; neither guns per capita nor gun owners
> per capita answer that question, but are attempts to approximate it.
>
> > gun collectors are criminals.  If I own 27 firearms, and I murder my
> > neighbor in a fit of jealous rage, I don't carefully make sure to
> > shoot him once with each.
>
> What has your neighbour been up to? Personally I prefer a more intimate
> form of violence ... I wonder how that auction for the battleaxe is
> going?
>
> > being used as a murder weapon in a given year.  You will find that the
> > US compares *VERY* favorably with most of Europe; in fact, in some
> > European nations, a randomly chosen gun is more than 20 times as
> > likely to be used as a murder weapon in a given year than a random
> > gun in the US.
>
> Oh, I don't know ... you could argue it the other way. Europeans lead
> the way in using firearms for what they were intended for - killing
> people <evil grin>
>
> More seriously, I suspect that what that analysis shows is that illegal
> firearms are used for crime; the risk is too much to hang on the wall,
> or practice.
>
>
>
> --
> Mike Meredith (http://zonky.org/)
>   One test is worth a thousand opinions.
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