[geeks] education systems around the world

[hike]

On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Jonathan C. Patschke <jp at celestrion.net>wrote:

> On Sat, 25 Oct 2008, hike wrote:
>
>  but you stated philosophy leads to anarchy!
>>
>> wouldn't that make you an anarchist!
>>
>> (i used to hold this same view when i was in jr. high school.  i've grown
>> some since then.)
>>
>
> So, you truly believe the only way that people can live in harmony is by
> forming a government to impose a set of rules upon all, because people are
> so broken and fallible?
>
> What, then, would you propose that we elect to this government?  So far,
> all governments have been composed of people, who are so broken and
> fallible as to be judged unfit to be able to rule themselves.
>
> Would you say, then, that governments would work by virtue of having the
> collective population select only the best and most capable people to
> positions of power?  Surely this is a great idea, as everyone holds
> politicians' integrity and competence in the highest regard!
>
>
> No, I would ask you to realize that your home is not burglarized daily
> merely because there is a police station some miles away which you are
> forced to pay for.  Your home is not burglarized daily because there just
> aren't that many burglars in most parts of the world.
>
> Take a look at yourself.  Would you steal from your neighbor?  Would you
> attack him for no reason?  Would you set fire to someone's home because
> you disagreed with him?  Would you enslave his children because you needed
> some yard work done?
>
> I very-much doubt you would do any one of those things.  I also doubt you
> suspect most of the people with whom you associate would do any of those
> things.
>
> So, if you can rule yourself without inflicting harm on others, and your
> associates can rule themselves without inflicting harm on others, maybe we
> should save the force and the guns and the coercion and the violence for
> those who prove that they're unable to rule themselves without inflicting
> harm on others?
>
>
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Jonathan,

don't change the subject--i am not the point of discussion.

you have noted that people are not perfect.  that is the proof that you are
proposing a system of anarchy.

but you have not answered my question--since you are proposing a system of
anarchy, are you an anarchist.

(not all anarchists are violent and even the "violent" ones use violence as
a tool to promote anarchy.)