[geeks] Microsoft Surface...
Phil Stracchino
phil.stracchino at speakeasy.net
Mon Jun 4 11:48:32 CDT 2007
Doug McLaren wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 01:20:49PM -0700, William Kirkland wrote:
>
> | > Wow. Those are some remarkably broad brushes you're painting
> | > Microsoft and Apple with.
> |
> | Yes, I did ... and similar to another discussion on this board, I too
> | feel that profiling is appropriate. Including it's use when comparing
> | the ethics and products a company produces especially the how ...
> |
> | Microsoft tends to acquire a company with a particular piece of
> | technology they find interesting.
>
> Is there anything wrong with that? Seems to be business as usual,
> though often it does stifle the company being acquired. But on the
> other hand, many companies are built with the express intention of
> being acquired -- because it's either that or an IPO that makes it's
> founders immediate millions.
There's nothing wrong with that, no. On the other hand, there's been
several occasions on which Microsoft surreptitiously stole a piece of
software technology, then sued the company that actually invented it to
try to intimidate them into turning over the rights (or bankrupt them
under Microsoft's deep pockets).
> | and I may have missed it, but I did not notice anything indicating
> | the great leaps backward Microsoft attempted with Microsoft Java
> | ... as I recall the first paragraph of the java specification
> | REQUIRED that the code be cross platform compatible, yet Microsoft's
> | implementation would not run on any platform except another
> | Microsoft platform.
>
> Huh?
>
> The java code itself is supposed to be cross platform. The JRE itself
> doesn't have to be cross platform.
>
> | I think that qualifies as deliberate ...
>
> So you're saying that Microsoft was trying to squash it's competitors
> by not releasing a JRE for the Mac? (or Sun, Linux, or for Amigas,
> etc.)
No. Microsoft used the phrase "embrace and extend". This basically
meant "take over and pollute". Microsoft wanted to add proprietary
extensions to their Java implementation which would run ONLY on a
Microsoft OS on an x86 platform. Not to the JRE; to the *language*.
They wanted to break the machine/OS independence and turn it into a /de
facto/ Microsoft proprietary language.
--
It's not the years, it's the mileage.
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