[geeks] Global Warming causes...

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On Dec 2, 2007 12:22 AM, <wa2egp at att.net> wrote:

> > Two thirds of what scientists?
> >
> > The ones who the media interviews?
> >
> > No doubt.
> >
> > In Tidewater, 2/3 of the police interviewed by the media report a
> > "consensus" that there is no gang activity.
> >
> > The reason is simple: the cities and the news have a vested interest
> > in saying it isn't a problem, even though nearly all police officers
> > and a good number of citizens know otherwise.
> >
> > Consensus via news media or published articles is a popularity
> > contest, not a metric.
>
> Then what is?  How about peer-reviewed published articles?  Or
> do we just make up whatever we want?
>
> > I used to work in an atmospheric research data center, and I read a
> > lot of the publish reports.
>
> I doubt you read them all.  Your sample may be selective.
>
> > There was no consensus at all, and a good number of them reported
> > cosmic radiation, natural disasters, and orbit variation as larger
> > factors in global temperature.
>
> Explain how.  Maybe some of those might be bogus alternative explanations
> which have been shown to be just that.  Cosmic radiation (what type, I
> don't know) sounds a little far fetched.  Orbital variation should have
> been noticed by astronomers, even subtle ones.  I don't know what natural
> disasters that would have happened more in the last hundred years than
> before.  I find that unlikely.
>
> > The main reason you don't hear about those other factors is that they
> > are not popular.  They don't sell ads, they aren't boogymen, they have
> > no emotional appeal, and it requires real work rather than knee jerk
> > reactionism to cope with it.
>
> Or maybe they were found to be flawed.
>
> > People like to focus on things where they can say, "Let's fix it."
> >
> > Factors out of our control, we aren't as willing to talk about.
> >
> > In the end, we do precious little about either.
>
> Hmmmm...I thought we managed to head off the ozone layer problem
> before it got too far along.
>
> Bob
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should one read all the news reports from the investigations of mars, you
would see that major news outlets are reporting that mars is warming.
these reports are coming out of the field of astronomy and space
exploration.
the sun is listed as the cause for the warming of mars.
scientists have found photographic evidence of liquids (possibly water)
where none existed in the 1990s.
i guess these scientists have invested in lots of tinfoil, huh!
the trend among news release is that global warming, while true, is not
caused by human activity but solar activity.
scientists have been predicted a cooling of the earth since the 1970's--i
didn't read a lot before that so i don't know about earlier.

no ad homien (sp?) attacks please.  they are poor rhertoric (and this is not
a political debate, is it?)

Science sucks!  science is good!