[geeks] Dos and similar games

[Michael Parson]

On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 12:00:16AM -0500, Brian Dunbar wrote:
> Mike Hebel wrote:
>
>> 2) Airplanes:  Issue pepper spray to _every_ adult on the plane then lock
>> the cockpit. What's the worst that could happen?  You end up with a bunch
>> of people with pepper in their eyes and a plane landed early.  If the
>> hijacker manages to smuggle and detonate a bomb then a gun wouldn't have
>> helped you anyway.
>
> I think you're over-estimating the effectivness of pepper spray.  I will
> allow that have never taken a face shot of the stuff, but I did go at
> least yearly (some years twice) to the CS chamber in the Marines.
>
> Now, I'm a big fat sissy and I hated the experience - but willingly
> played the games to make sure I really knew how to put on my mask.
> Nothing like a snoot full of CS _in_ the mask to drive home the point
> that the steps for donning and clearing are in the correct order and
> doing them wrong can be fatal.
>
> But that wasn't my point.  There were always individuals - and there
> were a lot of them in the grunts, but fewer after I became a data
> processor - who would go back in to the chamber many many times.  Then
> they'd run around inside the chamber, masks off.
>
> My point is that, while I don't _know_ pepper spray I do know from
> experience it's possible to function with clouds of CS in your face.
> And in your lungs.  It _hurts_ but you can function.
>
> Non-lethal agents are great but to some degree the targets have to
> cooperate.  Lethal force is all a one-way street in that regard.

Ah, the CS gas chamber, that was always something to look forward too.

However, one of the reasons they developed the pepper sprays was exactly
this reason, some people seem to be able to develop a resistance to CS
gas much easier than they do to the pepper.

http://www.reliapon.com/FAQ.htm#oc

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Michael Parson
mparson at bl.org