[geeks] OSX 10.4.2, FireFox 1.0.5 out

[Mike Parson]

On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 12:12:27PM -0400, Joshua Boyd wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 11:55:44AM -0400, Kurt Huhn wrote:
>> On Jul 15, 2005, at 10:31 AM, Joshua Boyd wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 11:24:55PM -0400, Patrick Giagnocavo 
>>> 717-201-3366 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hey, mine boot into the OF real fast...  :-)  Or did they mean
>>>> something other than Forth?
>>>
>>> Well, a Sun might take 10 minutes, but how long does a Symbolics, LMI,
>>> or TI take to boot?  45?
>>
>> <horse type=dead action=beating>
>> Whuh?  Which Sun?  My Sparcbook boots to a login prompt in about 30 
>> seconds.  The Ultra 60 in far less.
>> </horse>
>
> We are talking about the Sun3 through early Sparc days, and machines
> that are very likely being netbooted.
>
> That said, 10 minutes may not be acurate, but then again since in the
> quote they were being rebooted because of crashes, you need to account
> for fsck time on a non logged FS-check.

Netbooted machines shouldn't need an fsck.  Now if the box the diskless
workstations were booting off of crashed, then yeah, everyone suffers.

As far as a Sun taking a long time to boot, try booting some of the
early Ultra Enterprise class boxes with diag-switch? set to true and
diag-level set to max. =)

Might be 5 minutes before you even see something on the console.

But the UNIX Haters' Handbook was refering to UNIX Workstations, so they
were probably refering to Sun3 or early Sparcs, which compared to the
LISP machines they usually replaced, they did boot pretty quickly.

-- 
Michael Parson
mparson at bl.org