[geeks] YAGCT

Francisco Javier Mesa-Martinez lefa at ucsc.edu
Sat Dec 20 03:25:21 CST 2003


On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Phil Stracchino wrote:

>
> On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 08:05:18AM -0800, Francisco Javier Mesa-Martinez wrote:
> > The issues I have with the gun lobby is their outlandish claims that gun
> > control = gun banning.
>
> In the US, that's basically what it *DOES* mean.  Just ask any of the
> gun control lobby.  Their *stated goal* is to eliminate ALL private
> possession of firearms in the US, PERIOD.  Hunting, target shooting,
> collecting, personal paotection, it doesn't matter, take'em all away.
> Several of the leading figures have even made public slips in which
> they've admitted they don't care whether it has any effect on crime,
> they just want all the guns gone.

Quotes, sources please.

> After the Brady Bill (mandating a waiting period for purchases) passed,
> the president of HCI crowed at a press conference, "The NRA said this
> bill would be the nose of the camel under the tent.  Well, here's the
> rest of the camel."  This after stating flat out in the same conference
> that, their claims prior to passage notwithstanding, HCI knew *and had
> known from the beginning* that the bill would have no effect on crime.

I assume there may be anti-gun radical people, but trying to refute theri
positions with radical gun-nut stuff is equally bad.



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