Ok, since Bill doesn't mind and I'm trying to teach myself The Gimp: http://pcisys.net/~dand/gimp/hatsymca.jpg (I renamed the file again) -DanD -- # Dan Duncan (kd4igw) dand at pcisys.net http://pcisys.net/~dand # You can't always get what you want. # -Mick Jagger