[geeks] One of the things I love about America

[Andrew Weiss]

On Thursday, May 2, 2002, at 03:00 PM, Chris Byrne wrote:

>>>
>> Assessment: maybe; total womanizer, however... and not in a good way.
>
> Thats what a satyriac is. its the male version of nymphomanias with
> misogynistic undertones.
>
I was contrasting between getting nookie often, and "being a chauvinist 
in addition to getting nookie"  In some ways I see Kennedy as far more 
of the latter and Clinton as the former... (from reported accounts of 
how Kennedy's treated women)

<snips...>


> Bullshit. THere was no collusion between the Mullahs and the 
> republicans.
>
Maybe not in this case... but I often find myself wondering about either 
party and their secret deals with other nations.  I think there is a lot 
of collusion going on everywhere... and we will probably never know it.

> <snip>

> Not true. The gulf war was very much necessary. Had the US not 
> participated
> in the gulf war then Saddam Hussein would control Iraq, Saudi Arabia,
> Kuwait, and most of the other contiguous contries. Saddam is EXTREMELY
> hostile to america, and 53% of the oil america uses comes from those
> countries.
>
You actually think Saddam would have taken over Saudi Arabia?  I would 
have thought they were way to strong and proud to let that happen.  
Kuwait was tiny.  We've always got the new Russian oil.
>
> I honestly dont see how you can call him great. He didnt actually do
> anything great. All of the major things he started failed. Some of them
> spectacularly (Haiti, Somalia, Palestine, North Korea) The only 
> significant
> thing he did at home was welfare reform and a compromise budget. That 
> is not
> the stuff of Great presidents.
>
This is just a disagreement of terms.  I really don't give a rats ass 
personally about foreign policy.  All those examples are waffled foreign 
policy.  As long as you don't start a war, and as long as you can 
reasonably keep invaders off our soil and protect our interests where 
necessary (i.e. our ships and other things aren't being seized)... 
that's enough for me.  As a newly unemployed person in a tight market I 
am far more concerned with health care, education, and domestic policy.  
If we were on track to paying our country's debt, that's a good thing.  
Taking all the [extra or not] money and throwing it up in the air via 
tax stimulus packages, tax cuts, excess military spending, and pork 
barrel projects is a very bad thing especially after an economic 
downturn (whether or not one believes it to be a recession).  And yes I 
think Gore's foreign policy would have stunk bad enough I'd care about 
it in hindsight.

"When you have no money, you see government policy by the affluent  as 
aimed at taking money away from you."
--conversely if corrupted...
"When you have money, you see government policy on issues you don't care 
about as a waste of your money."

I see it as money or no, you can take my money if you spend it 
responsibly and/or the way I choose....

<snip>

You live there, you fight for it. That's how it goes. It was the law, it 
was
> never consitutionally challenged. THat's what conscientious objector 
> status
> is for.
>
You can't be a conscientious objector for either political or 
self-preservation reasons... kind of defeats the point.

<snip>

> all very bad things. He isnt however an idiot, nor is he a puppet of 
> anyone.
>
Heh...hehehe perhaps not... after all idiots are innocent generally.  
Clumsy evil person might fit better.


> <snip>

> Yes all of his businesses failed, though Id say hes a bit better than a
> meatloaf. He appointed some very good people to handle economics, 
> becaues he
> knows that he doesnt know.
>
He should therefore cut tax policy and economic policy entirely out of 
his platform since he's royally screwing it up.  It's like the guy who 
goes and buys a boat on his credit card and then never pays for it 
meanwhile he has his portion of the shared rent to pay and doesn't pay 
it sticking others (future generations) with the bill.

>> <snip agreements>

Nobody can win this as a battle ... of course I don't see it as a 
battle.  I am quite bitter at the political behavior of this country in 
the last two years.