[geeks] Major League Oh Shit!!!

[geeks at sunhelp.org]

Nice theory.  That is what the constitution says, and what is supposed to
happen.  That is however not what usually happens.  I've had my
"rights" violated by the police many times.  Anyone been following the
storys on what the police in PG county Maryland have been doing?  The
problem we're running into is "who watches the watchers".  Every last
"watcher" must be 100% reliable or the whole system falls apart.  For
instance I've got long hair, this *IS NOT* probable cause to search me for
drugs.  So what do I do when I, my friends who are with me, my car,
anything else nearby get searched and detained for 2-3 hrs?  Tell them "no
I won't let you search me"?  That will quite possibly get them a
warrent.  Report them afterwards?  no thanks.
	Nick

On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, Kurt Huhn wrote:

> This, my friends, is why I live in the US.
> Anybody else see the Dateline (or something) segment on Virgin, Utah?  All
> households (yep, all 320 of em) are required to have a firearm in them, and
> the occupants *must* know how to use it.  It's a law.  The crime rate is 0%.
> No that wasn't directly relateable.  And yes, this could happen anywhere.
> But the laws in the US would protect the homeowner from such violations of
> what we US citizens call basic inviolable rights.  NEVER would your property
> be confiscated - we call that "illegal search and seizure".
> Not to knock Ireland, but the news from there the last few days is anything
> but good...
> Kurt